I volunteered as a cook at a homeless shelter and applied to grocery stores and nursing homes because I figured they would stay open no matter what. Some of the developers are starting to get smarter about computers and might see some value in a manager who knows more deeply what software can do. For this specific job, the work would entail having a normal 8-5 workday, but he would be on call 24/7 one week a month. Costs are under $1000 for those who were thinking about this. Why leave it? OP2, there are lots of fields where your background in education is an advantage. Whether you are still working on your current role or have already resigned, it is always important to have a plan and stick to it. its legit hard to hire an instructional designer or technologist right now in my area because theyve all been snapped up! There are online IT courses as well. There is so much you can do, and many of the CRE firms are large, global companies with some resources for employee development and retention that you might not find in other sectors. The ones who do have actual substantial experience. This is just so bad, all the time. Be gentle with yourself and try not to stress over it if you can. 5. Are all of these conditions common for this sort of benefit? Is there any way you could transfer to a new position where you could use your software engineering skills but in a different way? Love this! Its terrible for morale and unsustainable overall for the school system. I hadnt seen that, and its a very good summary of Working Identity. When I saw that you are looking to avoid stress AND you are considering becoming a property manager, I nearly choked. And for the love of all thats holy, teach your kids some self-regulation and resilience when it comes to peer relationships and dont expect the teachers to do it instead. It was a strange and diagonal move but I am so happy. If he knew where he wanted to go, he could try to get applicable work now and have a better chance at getting a foot in the door later. I havent seen a ton of people directly make the jump to instructional design without doing some course or degree work beforehand, but there are definitely independent contracting opportunities with K-12 education companies to develop materials. So he works retail now. In my own field, I have known people who loved the study of law and/or law school, but detested working as a lawyer/notary/prosecutor/judge/any practical application of law. I agree to do stuff, and they agree to pay me money for my efforts. You got me thinking. "Success in dealing with people depends on a sympathetic grasp of the other person's viewpoint." - Dale Carnegie. Seconding this. You can find it online, but also happy to answer some qs if I can help. I got nowhere when I first started applying to nonprofit positions, even though I can say in retrospect that I would have been fine at the jobs I was applying to if hired, my resume just wasnt as competitive because I had zero office experience. :) Your lingo seems familiar! Haller believes a job seeker being subjected to an AI interview is at a disadvantage. You can also look at programs that do continuing or professional education type things. I love the exposure to education from another angle, and Ive crafted my role to include a lot of training. The answer to THAT question would give a better idea of the next step to take. -working with both very challenging kids and very gifted kids and creating a supportive environment for all Yes, it is, and our school district is proposing it, which I am deeply unhappy about. I cant really imagine being in my industry for another 30 odd years until I retire. The most logical thing would be to take some IT classes and get certifications, then move to another company, but my heart isnt in it. I did have to get loans to go back to school, but this time I knew I would get a well-paying job immediately after so it wasnt that bad. I dont think the company is the problem and (unusually?) The pay cut is huge but at the time I had a plan that involved a list of food banks, washing my clothes in the park restroom, sleeping in my car, and using the library for internet whatever it took. And I get the same salary as a mainstream teacher (in my country its standardised). For me, most of the jobs on those, what should ex-teachers do, lists are very people-oriented, but I discovered that Im not that anymore. Its a series of little tutorials where you get hands-on training and learn the basics, and by the time youve finished them all youre learning some quite advanced concepts. Then in a couple of years you have a resume with the right words you can take out to other employers. Once you have determined exactly the type of schedule change you will ask for and the specific details that go along with it, request a meeting with your manager to discuss your proposal. If you want inelastic demand for your labor supply, get into IT. I work at a real estate company on the software side, and one of the things Ive found very striking is how invested management has been in keeping employees happy and finding the right roles for them, even across departments. Review your accomplishments and reiterate your enthusiasm about working there: "I've been here two years and I've proven . Thank you! The thing that I remember from going through the testing as a new employee is that Id always wondered why I test highly on mechanical aptitude but am unable to fix things turned out I have very low finger dexterity. Even if you dont completely subscribe to this idea, I found it something of a relief at the time I read it, a time when (like both OPs) I wasnt sure about the first decimal place, much less the ninth. The first time I changed careers, I was OTJ trained, but needed a credential, which I could only test for with a degree, but that degree wouldnt have added to my knowledge base much. My kids are back at school based on our lockdown levels, etc. Still working in education, but not directly teaching. After bouncing around my urban school district on one year assignments I was sent to my first long term school where I spent 10 years. To the OP teacher: Thanks for doing your job. LW2- Im feeling the same in higher education; but at the same time, I have earned a lot of flexibility and reputation at my institution so I dont want to start over. -constantly changing timeslots, and the requirement to do the exact same amount of reqs but with half the time LW No. I have general advice based on my own experience, and mine is different because my new career path is still part of my overall industry, but definitely a separate path that took intentional and ongoing effort to move into. This is how my nieces school district did it (shes in virtual kindergarten and seems to love it). I really put a lot of thought into my second career that I didnt in my first. Discuss your motivation for switching careers and your interest in growing your career in the field. Full disclosure: I worked in their research department years ago but dont have an ongoing relationship with them. And a good trade school will not only teach you to pass the licensing exam but help you connect with employers in their network and continue to support you in finding work, even long after you graduate. For exIm an analytical person who likes to make decisions based on whats black-and-white. Bonus: even with Covid, I get daily calls/emails from recruiters so jobs are plentiful. You cant be good at that without being able to understand and break down the process and anticipate where they could go wrong. For example, some people know they want to be an accountant, but they dont much care what kind of organization they work for. -He invested in some serious career counseling (including a four hour aptitude test that found he would be terrific in the tech sector, but would be an awful teacher. I am a high school teacher (with a PhD. I wasnt really ready to do the work of finding a real career path and getting the training to get there, so I basically forgot about it. You have the background in HOW students learn, and even if you dont have the same type of curriculum as classroom teachers, you do have training and experience in building knowledge in your classes. Going into property management to reduce stress would be like going into restaurant ownership to support fasting. I had my answers prepared about why I was switching careers, but it turned out no one wanted to know why I was leaving the classroom; as soon as I said I used to be a teacher all of my interviewers said some version of ugh, now thats an awful job. Is it something I can feasibly do? If theres a shortage of school librarians where you are, maybe you could get your employer to pay for some or all of the masters degree. I was in the middle of changing fields before COVID. I transitioned out of teaching by taking a job at an after school program where I was working with students for part of the time (after school), and doing administrative tasks in the morning (while the kids were in school). So, the best question you can ask in a job interview is the one that points towards what it is that you want: being . Then, if you try on a new profession for size, I recommend volunteering to get some experience and to see if its a good fit. designer for an e-learning platform (do a short UX course and see if you enjoy it) (If so, what would those junior-level roles be called?) And even if they want to move forward with you - you're probably hearing back later than they promised. Everyone is stressed out and demoralized. Most of these arent things youd want to start doing right now because of the pandemic, but with two vaccines ready to start rolling as early as December and training periods ranging from a few months to two years depending on the profession, that may well not be a concern when youre ready to look for a job after training. (Also, if you volunteer once TPTB will ask you back over and over again, assuming you were not terrible, which makes you a known entity if you do decide to switch careers.). I dont hate managing people actually I think the worst thing about my job is that it can feel a bit relentless. Typically youll get a feel for if you have an aptitude just by doing the basics, and all the while youll be making your current high salary. I dont feel pulled in so many directions and like Im dropping the ball all the time anymore. If you ever find this elusive list of jobs, Id like a copy too. 4. Book Recommendation: Pivot by Jenny Blake. I thought about the things I DO enjoy (organizing, tracking, synthesizing and distilling information, learning new things) and landed a job where I can do all those things AND still occasionally use my subject matter expertise! But I also wanted to share the reality that it can be a tough journey in contrast to all the articles out there that make it sound like a snap. Could you work for Bentley and design CAD software (or a place like my engineering company where we have software engineers on staff customizing all the CAD software)? She continued taking graduate classes at a local university which was relatively inexpensive and now has over 100 credits over and above the MEd and her principal certification. So that just doesnt really feel obtainable. I was getting interviews for ID jobs after completing that additional training, though I eventually ended up going in a totally different direction where I still use those skills along with my main line of work, digital accessibility. Make a budget with this new salary, including rent/mortgage, food, debts/loans, etc. And there are cases in most schools right now, it just isnt being reported. My prior job had a rigid residency requirement and zero portability. OP 2: Im not a teacher- I opted against it because of the parents when I was in school. It has turned out to be very worth it, though I would never in a million years have imagined ending up here! The internet is full of little side gigs writing or editing so thats one route to explore too, or start a YouTube channel. Paralegal fit all of those things. Are you willing to make the lifestyle changes youd have to make to start over in a field that pays either less or more erratically? LW1, since your migraines are triggered by stress, you may want to focus on getting your migraines under better control before making any decisions. Shes the creator of Googles Career Guru Program, and she profiles lots of people in the book with real situation which I found so helpful (and the solution is not give it all up and follow your dreams!, advice which gives me heart failure). In my case this was doubly helpful because one of the key signs for me that I wasnt cut out for investment management was that I had a hard time bringing myself to proactively study things on my own time, and doing things on the side kind of forces you into that situation. Especially if youre able to pick up something at foreclosure/tax auction/short sale. Ive definitely started my list of my aptitudes/strengths, and Im pretty sure online curricular design one of them (this whole year has been trying to learn how to ride a horse while running after it, trying to get on). Best of luck to you! Check out Idealist and PhilanthropyNewsDigest, as both list jobs that often are looking for people with teaching experience for nonprofit jobs. Another potential option is to go to your boss first. I doubt you need to get another degree but looking into some specific classes on adult learning theory and instructional design might be helpful. Ive been doing this for a couple of years now with my own retirement company. Being home the past few months, Ive had more time than Id normally give myself to think about this. Quiet heads-down time? There are certainly lots of resources available to get the basics of adult learning theory. Good benefits and leave. Architectural technologist, likewise, is a lot of hours and some pretty hairy deadlines at least at first. -developing relationships with students and kids (I taught primary school but also university Ive joined Facebook and LinkedIn groups just to take inspiration from other peoples ideas Former teacher here. Also parents out there, please, please, please be kind to your teachers. I cant speak as to teaching but property management can be very very stressful. Kids usually are only there because adults make them lol and it makes a big difference. I run field trips, outreach and work with 5 different school districts.My classroom teaching experience means I know how to work with teachers, I get it, I know how to prepare materials and activities that get 9-year olds excited about conserving water. I was able to get a job writing curriculum for a franchise based childcare company. Think more about what YOU would like to do than what a teacher would like to do. Corporate Training comes to find, or teaching software applications or platforms? Look up trapeziuw and other upper back stretches. When my dad was looking at retiring from teaching, he made an appointment with the state teacher retirement people and sat down to figure out exactly what quitting at this time vs that time would mean. Plus, monetizing your passions/hobbies can be a total drag that ruins the hobby, especially if it is one that serves an audience (like art or music). Hes not making a huge amount of money, but he wasnt before either. Thanks! (I did, and I love my job!). Yeah I everyone I know who teaches has quit this year. For me, there was no job I would enjoy more than sitting on my couch cross stitching, so I pretty much chose something that would let me do my hobbies a lot, would pay well, and I wouldnt have to do a big job search for. Can you combine skills from your old career with skills from retraining? Id imagine many people will disagree, but I think being passionate about your work is both super over-rated and can be discouraging, as good passion jobs are rare and hard to find. That sort of thing. Granted this was *mumble mumble* years ago, but when I was a kid my dad, whos a teacher, got his real estate license and did exactly this. Its not the intellectual challenge engineers make it out to be). Im so glad that worked out for you! Attend networking events hosted by your company. In contrast to many career-management books, which assume you have to figure everything out to the ninth decimal place before you dare type the first letter into your new rsum, Ibarra plants her flag on try things and let them change you and your sense of self. She has also published shorter pieces in Harvard Business Review and elsewhere. Both seem like they could be good fits. Its a great entry to begin to understand the business side of education. Then, I took a job that was a pay cut and a sorta entry level, but that would build the parts of my experience that were still missing and open doors through industry recognition. Almost every product company has a service team that provides related professional learning and teachers are great candidates for this work. Ive been doing IT since then, and I dont enjoy it, but I do enjoy the paycheck. Make an action plan. For the first letter, I have many questions! Could that put you in proximity to the drafting world and maybe you do go that route? A friend of mine recently got into it but she also has a sales background and has a similar personality to the LW awhile back who got jobs higher than the level she applied. I have a question about this. That sounds like fun." and see where the conversation goes. Thanks for your thoughtful response. Find someone who does myofascial release. In my job as an architect, I actually spend about 80% of my work time running projects, meetings, speaking with clients and contractors, reviewing work and addressing questions by the team, doing paperwork required to get and keep a project moving. Im not sure what kind of job that would be? This. How does one work out if itll be worth it? Question what future they see for you at the company and if there's room for growth. The agony is short term, the pension payments are forever. Im a librarian currently, and theres quite a few jobs in metadata management, systems librarianship, UX/UI/digital content management, etc. At a really high level, the job of an instructional designer is to take information from the experts and put it into a format that works for students. During a pandemic? Would administration be an option? I thought this sounded pretty cool so I Googled. OP, there are many skills that you can leverage. Is the job repetitive or varied? As an online-only teacher, I have almost 300 students (secondary, so teaching multiple levels of one subject) and am so burnt out. Travel? I can make (most things) happen but you have to tell me directly what you want. In my last corporate role, I too got stress migraines 2-3 times a week and spent my weekends and most evening in bed. I dont. My friend is also trying to get out of teaching, and I always advise her to look for jobs at places that value educators: namely universities and colleges. I took a pay cut to do this, but my mental health is much better. If things are more stable next year, go for it! Maybe something involving editing or transcribing? We sometimes kid around in the office that a realistic drama series about attorneys would involve filming a room full of people quietly looking at pieces of paper all day. K, you might want to check out ATD (Association for Talent Development). Its amazing how little things that make us more comfortable can make such a big difference. If youve always loved teaching before, I would try to hold on at least for this year. Honestly, this whole idea of look for something in your current field that is related to your ambition was how I started making my career transition. I strongly recommend the work of Herminia Ibarra, especially Working Identity (2003). I am a former teacher that transitioned to ID and I love it. Teachers so often get stuck thinking they ONLY know how to teach, but its not true at all! If I could get back to my old salary in the next 5 years, Id consider it, but if it was say, going from software engineer to teacher, Id have to a lot of money banked to make that switch. If so, is there something you can do to get that back e.g. Maybe making some calls. In two months I had one interview, with a Very Nice Chef who said hed love to hire me but couldnt until full capacity dining was allowed. The key to successful career change is realising you don't have to do it alone. a new job? Some questions that I found super helpful to ask when I was planning all of this: It did involve a number of education theory and research classes (and the teachers definitely had a leg up on me and the other non-educator folks in terms of knowledge and practical experience). I wish I had more advice but I am hoping you can press on until you can find something awesome in your current role or find a new awesome role. A government minister has failed to make the shortlist to become the Tories' London mayoral candidate. I agree that being passionate about work or doing what you love is overrated. I didnt focus on what I was passionate about. I havent explored the options but the person behind the account offers ways to transition out of education. There are situations where the school district just needs to figure it out without dumping everything on the teachers (and, like most districts, theyre not used to solving problems themselves without just dumping them on the teachers). Teachers develop curriculum (even within the standard curriculum taught in their school) and can be flexible in how it is presented. In my interviews I kept Alisons most common phrases in mind, and kept reminding myself to be matter of fact about everything and that people leave jobs all the time. There are small get-togethers for holidays (not this year) and birthdays and thats it. Whereas Boomers and Gen Xers had just one or two jobs in their first 10 years out of college, Millennials are changing jobs and often careersup to four times by the time they're 32. I was in the same boat as LW2, with the major difference being it was my 2nd year of full-time teaching. Teaching shouldnt be a field that chews through new hires like rat through the cheese cuboard. That obviously comes down to company culture, but I guess my point is that its something possible within this industry in my previous roles in investment management, that kind of transition was pretty unimaginable between groups. *poof* The expectations/pressure/workload didnt change but I went back to mostly finding my work fast-paced/exciting/etc rather than stressful. -He applied for a job within our public school system about a year ago, but on the IT side instead of the teaching side. Theres also an editor of textbooks, a yogi, and a curriculum specialist. Can confirm. 1. Ive only done renovation work on my own house and dont have a bunch of practical skills tbh, but I could tell you a bunch about planning permission and building regs. I could surely use the $2 but not enough to go back to the classroom. I do not work in instructional design because the paycut from what I do now was too much for this stage of my life, but its what Im hoping to do as my second career when I can afford to take the improved work/life balance for the dollars. Im in the middle of trying to figure out my own path and both OPs situations resonate. If you have a military base in your area, there may also be contract opportunities for civiliansanother ID in my office did that with our local AF base for 8 years. Treat your life as a series of experiments try something new that is tangential to your current path, and if it works, venture farther. This has been my struggle for the last year or so. LW 2, I might not be the best person, but I realized that, after being the English department and burning myself out on three different extracurricular activities, all I really needed was a break. (But the suggestion of looking for software roles within a property company thats come up is a good one).
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